{"id":27,"date":"2003-05-09T02:27:28","date_gmt":"2003-05-09T07:27:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/jthurber.com\/blog\/?p=27"},"modified":"2003-05-09T02:27:28","modified_gmt":"2003-05-09T07:27:28","slug":"more-vitriolic-email","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jthurber.com\/blog\/?p=27","title":{"rendered":"More vitriolic email&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I used <a href=\"http:\/\/fink.sourceforge.net\">Fink<\/a> (install linux packages on OSX)  to install <a href=\"http:\/\/subversion.tigris.org\">Subversion<\/a> (a CVS improvement\/alternative) on the 12in PowerBook on Wednesday.  The process went quite smoothly, particularly when you consider that this is the only install\/compile I&#8217;ve ever seen where the compile took 4 hours.  In my experience something that takes 4 hours to compile doesn&#8217;t usually finish, but at the end of all that time I had a handful of subversion binaries that work on OS X.  (Now, I&#8217;ve written 3000  line PL\/SQL procedures that ran for 24 hours, but that&#8217;s a whole different ball game.  My stored procs were simply free of any hint of optimization while I think Fink&#8217;s approach to creative de-optimization was to compile everything in the world&#8230; the darwin kernel, itself, do a bit of seti, encode some mp3&#8217;s, then compile svn \ud83d\ude09 &#8230; then discard 9.9\/10th&#8217;s of it&#8230; but it did work, so I&#8217;m really not complaining.)   <\/p>\n<p><i>As an aside, Subversion may have jumped the gun a bit in shutting down their cvs repository while still requiring that you get an svn binary in order to bootstrap and get latest&#8230; bit of a chicken and the egg problem that could have been avoided by putting an old source tree on cvs?  I say this only because it looks like they specifically shut down their cvs repository a few releases ago.  I don&#8217;t know the whole story, but it looks like the client-side of the binaries totals to a grand 2mb zipped.  That&#8217;s a lot of Fink compiling for a little app&#8230;<\/i><\/p>\n<p>This afternoon I was back at the Fink site reading their docs to see if Fink was a simple method for creating OSX installers (I&#8217;ll save you the trouble, it&#8217;s not) and found this <a href=\"http:\/\/fink.sourceforge.net\/pr\/openosx-thread.php\">email exchange<\/a> between the Fink and OpenOSX project owners.  Some highlights:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nWell, what you did can be roughly compared to downloading RedHat Linux from their ftp site, making some minor modifications (say, new boot disks and a streamlined installer), and then selling the result on CDs without mentioning RedHat in any way.<\/p>\n<p>>Fink doesn&#8217;t install XDarwin or X-Windows for you, our product does.<\/p>\n<p>Look again. Fink _can_ install XFree86 for you, even the months-old<br \/>\nversion you&#8217;ve used. (So much for assumptions.)\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\nAnyway, I thought it was a good read.<\/p>\n<p>Reminds me of some of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.alexking.org\/blog\/index.php?p=233\">the fun <\/a> Alex has been having recently.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I used Fink (install linux packages on OSX) to install Subversion (a CVS improvement\/alternative) on the 12in PowerBook on Wednesday. The process went quite smoothly, particularly when you consider that this is the only install\/compile I&#8217;ve ever seen where the compile took 4 hours. In my experience something that takes 4 hours to compile doesn&#8217;t [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-27","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-found-on-web"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/jthurber.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/jthurber.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/jthurber.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jthurber.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jthurber.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=27"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/jthurber.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/jthurber.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=27"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jthurber.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=27"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jthurber.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=27"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}